Advice on build and QVL dilemma

[SequelZero]

Hi, ok... the title is a bit too dramatic, don't take me too seriously. Building a pc in this period can make you go crazy.
the short question is:

• can I buy parts that are not in the qvl of the (asus) mobo, but are flagged as compatible in the (crucial) company website?
• any advice on the build below will be appreciated.

Long version: I am quite new to pc builds, so sorry if I am asking obvious questions.
After a bit of research and discussions, I ended up with a configuration and I was sure that I have checked all the compatibility. But while I was double checking the parts I have realized that the mobo (Asus Pro WS X570-ACE ATX AM) qvl seems a bit weird and does not include some commonly used parts.
In the specific a crucial ballistix ram, the m.2 samsung (only the exact variant I have, 970 evo plus, all the rest are apparently fine!!) and even the power supply, there is only one be quiet! PSU in the list. At the same time, if I check the crucial website states with a big text:
This part is 100% compatible with
Pro WS X570-ACE


I have asked this question in the same forum where I have received most of the advice and I was told that the qvl is just a list of parts officially tested by the manufacture, it doesn't mean that outside that list everything will explode! Bottom line, I am fine with a brand like crucial, Samsung, Sabrent and be quiet!

I was wondering if some of you have some experience on this of can give me an opinion.
The reasons why I picked those parts is because I have read articles and saw videos about the best match with ryzen cpu and especially because I have found those on sale. Also the ballistix should be good quality to be overclocked. I am still in time to return or pick new parts if really needed.




I would be also thrilled if I can receive some opinions about this build that I am planning.
I am a 3d artist, my main programs are Maya and Unreal, but as you already know we have to use many others in different situations. Gaming is minimal.
I am planning in the future to upgrade to a 3080 and maybe to a ryzen 5000 too, I was lucky enough to find a 3070. SO lots of considerations in the build are reflecting this too.

This is the build:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-ACE ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB UPRISING Video Card
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply



PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H2F84d
I would be particularly interested in your opinions about the mobo and the PSU.
I shop in Europe, I can receive parts either in Italy or the UK.

 

[Alex Glawion]

Yes those parts are compatible with the Asus WS ACE x570 even if they are not on the QVL. The QVL is just a way to know for sure that they will work, but in 99.9% of the cases any other modern and popular component will work too, even though it hasn't been tested for the QVL.

The Motherboard is made for workstation use and can drive 3 GPUs at x8 pcie-bandwidth speeds which is what its main intention is, but it has most of the other features of the x570 chipset, so overall an excellent board.

I have that particular PSU in my own workstation and can recommend it.

I see no issues whatsoever with your build. Go for it!

 

[Jerry James]

Hi, ok... the title is a bit too dramatic, don't take me too seriously. Building a pc in this period can make you go crazy.
the short question is:

• can I buy parts that are not in the qvl of the (asus) mobo, but are flagged as compatible in the (crucial) company website?
• any advice on the build below will be appreciated.

Long version: I am quite new to pc builds, so sorry if I am asking obvious questions.
After a bit of research and discussions, I ended up with a configuration and I was sure that I have checked all the compatibility. But while I was double checking the parts I have realized that the mobo (Asus Pro WS X570-ACE ATX AM) qvl seems a bit weird and does not include some commonly used parts.
In the specific a crucial ballistix ram, the m.2 samsung (only the exact variant I have, 970 evo plus, all the rest are apparently fine!!) and even the power supply, there is only one be quiet! PSU in the list. At the same time, if I check the crucial website states with a big text:
This part is 100% compatible with
Pro WS X570-ACE


I have asked this question in the same forum where I have received most of the advice and I was told that the qvl is just a list of parts officially tested by the manufacture, it doesn't mean that outside that list everything will explode! Bottom line, I am fine with a brand like crucial, Samsung, Sabrent and be quiet!

I was wondering if some of you have some experience on this of can give me an opinion.
The reasons why I picked those parts is because I have read articles and saw videos about the best match with ryzen cpu and especially because I have found those on sale. Also the ballistix should be good quality to be overclocked. I am still in time to return or pick new parts if really needed.




I would be also thrilled if I can receive some opinions about this build that I am planning.
I am a 3d artist, my main programs are Maya and Unreal, but as you already know we have to use many others in different situations. Gaming is minimal.
I am planning in the future to upgrade to a 3080 and maybe to a ryzen 5000 too, I was lucky enough to find a 3070. SO lots of considerations in the build are reflecting this too.

This is the build:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-ACE ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB UPRISING Video Card
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply



PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H2F84d
I would be particularly interested in your opinions about the mobo and the PSU.
I shop in Europe, I can receive parts either in Italy or the UK.

The QVL was more of a pressing issue with earlier iterations of Ryzen processors (1st and 2nd Gen). The memory controller was...shall we say, iffy. With newer Ryzen parts you shouldn't have any problems unless you're aiming for kits above the 3600Mhz mark (or unless you're extremely extremely unlucky )

For reference, I've tested right around 12 kits of memory (3000-4000 MHz) and 8 of them weren't on my motherboard's QVL. Only a single 3866 MHz kit out of those 8 kits memory gave me issues. It just wouldn't boot with the XMP profile (it did finally work with a couple of manual tweaks though). All other kits worked just fine by just enabling the XMP profile. No other tweaks needed.

 

[SequelZero]

thanks both for the opinion, the first thing I liked about the mobo was the gpu support, but now that nvidia removed SLI for the new geforce I feel like I won't use it much. unless I buy two exact same cards, which is as expensive as buying the model above.

But I have noticed suggestions here to do this multi gpu anyway. Do you think there is a way to make good use of the 3070 with a 3080? I thought I would waste the memory because only the lower amount between the two cards would be used, right? Sorry if I am not very technical

 

[Alex Glawion]

The easiest fix to use the full potential of both cards, even though they have a different amount of ram, is to use a render manager. A Render manager such as thinkbox deadline (which is free for up to 2 nodes) lets you render multiple frames at once. That way you can render one frame on the 3070 and another on the 3080, each making use of their own ram size.

 

[SequelZero]

That is great I didn't think about it. I hope I will manage to make it work. I see deadline supports unreal too, so it is perfect.
Thank you!

 

[SequelZero]

I have used a PSU wattage online calculator, this one: https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
And it says that for a similar build to mine with both 3070 and 3080 it should be 1000W

But I am not sure if it is correct:
with the 3070 it says 650W (I think it is not enough)
with the 3080 it says 750W (despite asus website's advice is for 850W)

I don't want to overbuy the PSU right now, but it might be worth not having to buy it again if I decide to go with the dual GPU, what do you think?

 

[Alex Glawion]

I'd get at least a 1000W PSU for that dual GPU Setup to be on the safe side. Better to have some headroom free on the PSU to not load it at 100% all of the time.

 

[SequelZero]

Thanks, I agree at the same time I am thinking that maybe it is a little bit too much...
I mean, for the 3070 plus overclock 850W is more than enough and it will work also with a 3080
But going with a 1000W because in 6 months I might use a dual gpu seems extreme futureproofing.

I am sorry I am a bit indecisive because I have until the end of January to return the psu I have bought on Amazon to take a bigger one. Too much time to think.

 

[Alex Glawion]

Sure you can always get a bigger one when you get the second GPU. But good PSUs only draw as much power as the PC requires, so you won't have a higher power bill just because of the stronger PSU.