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Jerry James

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Hey @Jerry James, I am here with a nice young man from the IT shop assembling the computer now, and he is saying that the cooling fan doesn't fit on this motherboard with 4 sticks of RAM installed. Any advice here?
Ah for the Dark Rock Pro 4, you'll have to adjust the fans upwards a bit to give you enough clearance. But yeah as Pitsch suggested, if you want to max out that CPU's capabilities, a 360 AIO would be a good way to go.
 
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Hey guys, just wanted to post a little update on this.....so the machine is definitely faster within specific things, but still a lot of lag in After Effects, especially when I have ALL the tools that I use TURNED ON....specifically motion blur and DOF. Element 3D is absolutely screaming up to the moment I turn on motion blur and depth of field....it's actually slower than my old machine in this case. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my setup.

@Pitsch , how is your machine running in AE with motion blur and DOF turned on? You don't happen to use Element 3D by any chance do you?
 
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Hey guys, just wanted to post a little update on this.....so the machine is definitely faster within specific things, but still a lot of lag in After Effects, especially when I have ALL the tools that I use TURNED ON....specifically motion blur and DOF. Element 3D is absolutely screaming up to the moment I turn on motion blur and depth of field....it's actually slower than my old machine in this case. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my setup.

@Pitsch , how is your machine running in AE with motion blur and DOF turned on? You don't happen to use Element 3D by any chance do you?
Oh that’s strange. There should be no way the new hardware is slower than your old machine. Can you check if any of your parts are throttling, maybe? Download and open Hwinfo (sensors only, when you run it) while you’re working.

Scroll to the CPU first and check package temps. If those are fine (<90C), scroll to the GPU (usually at the bottom) for Junction temps.
 
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Hey guys, just wanted to post a little update on this.....so the machine is definitely faster within specific things, but still a lot of lag in After Effects, especially when I have ALL the tools that I use TURNED ON....specifically motion blur and DOF. Element 3D is absolutely screaming up to the moment I turn on motion blur and depth of field....it's actually slower than my old machine in this case. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my setup.

@Pitsch , how is your machine running in AE with motion blur and DOF turned on? You don't happen to use Element 3D by any chance do you?
In my experience, in 99% of the cases this is an Adobe or AE or plugin compatibility issue.

The hardware you got (13900k,4090,right?) is the best there is for the tools you list here.

Things to check
- windows display scaling. This can screw up gpu hardware acc at times, turn on, off, etc try if it makes a diffefence
- make sure the plugins are actually set to use the gpu not cpu
- newest nvidia driver, test game ready driver and creator driver
- are you using the same AE and plugin versions as compared to your old pc? If not, have there been any updates that might impact performance?
- turn off disc cache
- check different audio hardware modes in AE preferences. This at times brings a host of issues for RAM previews
- definitely check with gpuz if the gpu is actually being properly utilized (sensors vram/utilization/load)

And of course the first thing to do is run benchmarks of cpu and gpu to see if they are performing as expected. Cinebench and octane bench come to mind.
 
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Hey guys, just wanted to post a little update on this.....so the machine is definitely faster within specific things, but still a lot of lag in After Effects, especially when I have ALL the tools that I use TURNED ON....specifically motion blur and DOF. Element 3D is absolutely screaming up to the moment I turn on motion blur and depth of field....it's actually slower than my old machine in this case. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my setup.

@Pitsch , how is your machine running in AE with motion blur and DOF turned on? You don't happen to use Element 3D by any chance do you?i j
Hey guys, just wanted to post a little update on this.....so the machine is definitely faster within specific things, but still a lot of lag in After Effects, especially when I have ALL the tools that I use TURNED ON....specifically motion blur and DOF. Element 3D is absolutely screaming up to the moment I turn on motion blur and depth of field....it's actually slower than my old machine in this case. Wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my setup.

@Pitsch , how is your machine running in AE with motion blur and DOF turned on? You don't happen to use Element 3D by any chance do you?
I use my machine mainly for 3ds Max/Corona. I can say it’s a beast in every task I put it up against
 
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In my experience, in 99% of the cases this is an Adobe or AE or plugin compatibility issue.

The hardware you got (13900k,4090,right?) is the best there is for the tools you list here.

Things to check
- windows display scaling. This can screw up gpu hardware acc at times, turn on, off, etc try if it makes a diffefence
- make sure the plugins are actually set to use the gpu not cpu
- newest nvidia driver, test game ready driver and creator driver
- are you using the same AE and plugin versions as compared to your old pc? If not, have there been any updates that might impact performance?
- turn off disc cache
- check different audio hardware modes in AE preferences. This at times brings a host of issues for RAM previews
- definitely check with gpuz if the gpu is actually being properly utilized (sensors vram/utilization/load)

And of course the first thing to do is run benchmarks of cpu and gpu to see if they are performing as expected. Cinebench and octane bench come to mind.
Hey my friend thank you for this. this was definitely helpful. I ran a stress test this morning and everything seems to be okay. So I checked the QVL list from the board manufacturer (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-AERO-D-rev-1x/support#support-memsup) and the RAM is not compatible at these speeds unfortunately. So I have to sell this G.Skill RAM on Craigslist because it's too late to return it to Amazon. lol. One RAM that WILL work though is the Kingston 5600 DDR5. Only question is about sticks. Kingston sells a 4 pack of sticks but it only runs at 5200. Or i could get 2 of the 2 packs at 5600. Which is better the 4 pack at 5200 or x2 of the 2 pack at 5600? I thought I once heard something about the bundles of RAM being super important. And getting RAM in unified sets is the best and fastest thing. Is this true? @Jerry James
 

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@Jerry James I need to add another HD to this build that is exclusively for cache. Is it possible to have 3 HD's on this machine? If so, could you recommend the best one for cache? Thanks.
 
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@Jerry James I need to add another HD to this build that is exclusively for cache. Is it possible to have 3 HD's on this machine? If so, could you recommend the best one for cache? Thanks.
Yes, 3 HDDs shouldn’t be an issue.

Anything works model-wise, tbh. Pick according to capacity and reliability you need. Longer warranties are pricier but more reliable on average.
If the data is very valuable, make sure your backup game is strong.
 
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