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Hi!
I'm an artist working mostly with creating artwork and "good enough" visualizations for public art competitions for myself and clients.
I got good advice here on my last build from Jerry James, and now I'm on the verge of turning my current computer into the "old" computer for work at home and building the "new" computer for the office. Sorry for the long post.
Tasks on the computer in order of importance:
Main workload:
1. Modelling in Rhino 3d, where I also import huge 3d models of buildings for visualizations.
2. Screenshots of animated 4K viewport in Rhino 3d with Nvidia GeForce experience. (As it is now, I always have to compromise on the amount of lights and material detail, unfortunately.)
Secondary workload:
3. Adobe Photoshop. It seems as if all Adobe products benefit from the Intel CPU?
4. Adobe After Effects.
5. Adobe InDesign, and Adobe Illustrator.
6. Lots of other random applications that as far as I know are not important to consider for the choice of system.
No gaming at all. No "real" rendering because of impatient clients and self.
My workflow demands having many applications open at the same time. (Not while screen shooting though, then I only have Rhino 3d running).
The budget for the new computer is roughly 1500$ for only MB, CPU and RAM.
But if this build is "future proof"... I can postpone my upgrade cycle a couple of years, and expand the budget a bit. I usually upgrade every 2-5 years, depending on the need.
I buy parts in Sweden which is not super cheap, but can deduct the VAT.
Some degree of energy efficiency is also considered a plus.
The parts for the new computer that I already have are:
GPU: GeForce RTX 4070 Ti TUF Gaming OC 12GB.
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D
PSU: Corsair 1200 W
I'm really happy with my current Noctua NH-U12A, so I probably buy a fitting Noctua for this system as well even though they are a bit pricy.
After reading up on the state of affairs for 2024, my conclusion is that for points 1-5 the new computer should (maybe?) be an Intel system this time. Is that right? (It's really confusing because my main odd duck software is not mentioned at all, and the choice of using Cinema 4D as a reference for the viewport benchmark seems odd, or at least confusing to me because the different versions are all over the place.)
If Intel, what version of i7 or i9 should I choose? The Core i7 14700K has been mentioned by Jerry James as the middle ground between energy efficiency and speed.
The speed seems to come at a price in cooling challenges and energy bills though.
I'm working long hours, and I do not have the need for speed all of the time.
Do the Intel CPUs have a clever way of detecting and adjusting for that?
Or do I have to choose MSI MB to make the CPU clever? (I'm not totally clear on what the article below says...) https://www.msi.com/news/detail/Sta...Function-for-Intel-14th-Gen-Processors-143359
Then I need advice on the Motherboard and RAM. Lanes and stuff on the motherboard, and maybe only 2 sticks of RAM for using said lanes best?
The old computer:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X (not overclocked)
Noctua NH-U12A
Asus Pro WS X570-Ace
Asus GeForce RTX 2060 Super ROG Strix Gaming OC 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti TUF Gaming OC 12GB
RAM G.Skill TridentZ Neo DDR4-3600 C16 QC - 64GB (using 4 sticks, was maybe not the greatest idea for performance utilizing lanes?)
PSU Corsair 1000 w
As I understand, the only part worth upgrading for the old computer is the CPU, and maybe then to a Ryzen (are 7, or 9 possible? 7 7800x?) Or something like the 5950X? As Alex Glawion replied to someone who was using Blender. Apples and pears, I know.
If that's a sound idea performance/economical-wise, what version would be best for my needs? Or should I just leave it as it is, or maybe try overclocking? The only real problem I had with this build was the screen shooting part, which is always too slow, even after upgrading to the 4070 Ti.
Sorry again for the rant, but my head is almost exploding with updates. Building a computer in the end of 2019 was so much easier.
Best regards Jan
I'm an artist working mostly with creating artwork and "good enough" visualizations for public art competitions for myself and clients.
I got good advice here on my last build from Jerry James, and now I'm on the verge of turning my current computer into the "old" computer for work at home and building the "new" computer for the office. Sorry for the long post.
Tasks on the computer in order of importance:
Main workload:
1. Modelling in Rhino 3d, where I also import huge 3d models of buildings for visualizations.
2. Screenshots of animated 4K viewport in Rhino 3d with Nvidia GeForce experience. (As it is now, I always have to compromise on the amount of lights and material detail, unfortunately.)
Secondary workload:
3. Adobe Photoshop. It seems as if all Adobe products benefit from the Intel CPU?
4. Adobe After Effects.
5. Adobe InDesign, and Adobe Illustrator.
6. Lots of other random applications that as far as I know are not important to consider for the choice of system.
No gaming at all. No "real" rendering because of impatient clients and self.
My workflow demands having many applications open at the same time. (Not while screen shooting though, then I only have Rhino 3d running).
The budget for the new computer is roughly 1500$ for only MB, CPU and RAM.
But if this build is "future proof"... I can postpone my upgrade cycle a couple of years, and expand the budget a bit. I usually upgrade every 2-5 years, depending on the need.
I buy parts in Sweden which is not super cheap, but can deduct the VAT.
Some degree of energy efficiency is also considered a plus.
The parts for the new computer that I already have are:
GPU: GeForce RTX 4070 Ti TUF Gaming OC 12GB.
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D
PSU: Corsair 1200 W
I'm really happy with my current Noctua NH-U12A, so I probably buy a fitting Noctua for this system as well even though they are a bit pricy.
After reading up on the state of affairs for 2024, my conclusion is that for points 1-5 the new computer should (maybe?) be an Intel system this time. Is that right? (It's really confusing because my main odd duck software is not mentioned at all, and the choice of using Cinema 4D as a reference for the viewport benchmark seems odd, or at least confusing to me because the different versions are all over the place.)
If Intel, what version of i7 or i9 should I choose? The Core i7 14700K has been mentioned by Jerry James as the middle ground between energy efficiency and speed.
The speed seems to come at a price in cooling challenges and energy bills though.
I'm working long hours, and I do not have the need for speed all of the time.
Do the Intel CPUs have a clever way of detecting and adjusting for that?
Or do I have to choose MSI MB to make the CPU clever? (I'm not totally clear on what the article below says...) https://www.msi.com/news/detail/Sta...Function-for-Intel-14th-Gen-Processors-143359
Then I need advice on the Motherboard and RAM. Lanes and stuff on the motherboard, and maybe only 2 sticks of RAM for using said lanes best?
The old computer:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X (not overclocked)
Noctua NH-U12A
Asus Pro WS X570-Ace
Asus GeForce RTX 2060 Super ROG Strix Gaming OC 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti TUF Gaming OC 12GB
RAM G.Skill TridentZ Neo DDR4-3600 C16 QC - 64GB (using 4 sticks, was maybe not the greatest idea for performance utilizing lanes?)
PSU Corsair 1000 w
As I understand, the only part worth upgrading for the old computer is the CPU, and maybe then to a Ryzen (are 7, or 9 possible? 7 7800x?) Or something like the 5950X? As Alex Glawion replied to someone who was using Blender. Apples and pears, I know.
If that's a sound idea performance/economical-wise, what version would be best for my needs? Or should I just leave it as it is, or maybe try overclocking? The only real problem I had with this build was the screen shooting part, which is always too slow, even after upgrading to the 4070 Ti.
Sorry again for the rant, but my head is almost exploding with updates. Building a computer in the end of 2019 was so much easier.
Best regards Jan