Cinema4D - 1 workstation and 2 render nodes

[pwnalds]

Hello guys!

I hope im posting this in the right section of the forum

If price was no objection, the plan would be having a main PC for a user to do her work, and have 2 seperate render workstation which can be connected to the main PC through Team Render from Cinema4D
Now the question here is for the render nodes: would you guys recommend going with Threadreaper CPUs on both the 2 render nodes, or, would you recommend pay the extra for the Redshift "plugin" on Cinema4D and get like 4 GPUs in each render node, say something like 4x 4080 on each of the 2 render nodes?

I plan on build this for a customer, and because im also a very enthusiast PC builder, i will go with the custom approach which in the end i know i will get better results cause im able to pick build parts

Any aditional sugestions would be much appreciated

Kindest regards!

 

[Jerry James]

Now the question here is for the render nodes: would you guys recommend going with Threadreaper CPUs on both the 2 render nodes, or, would you recommend pay the extra for the Redshift "plugin" on Cinema4D and get like 4 GPUs in each render node, say something like 4x 4080 on each of the 2 render nodes?

For purely GPU rendering, you would ideally go with whatever has the max PCIe lanes you can find. However, the sizes of these new GPUs limits the number you can add to any workstation to basically 2.
Here's a build that the PC Builder generates:


CGDirector.com Parts List: https://www.cgdirector.com/pc-builder/?=6NUg2

CPU: Intel Core i7 13700K 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor ($380.99)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 ($89.90)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 Aero D ATX LGA1700 ($299.00)
GPU: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB - ZOTAC Gaming ($1599.00)
Memory: 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-6000 CL30 ($217.99)
Storage PCIe-SSD: WD Black SN850X 2TB NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive ($139.99)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx Series RM1000x 1000W ATX Power Supply ($150.00)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99)
Total: $3006.86

You should be able to add another RTX 4090 in there, but you can find some thermal issues in higher ambient temp regions because these aren't blower coolers and will be spewing around 300-400W of heat.

If you have the budget for workstation GPUs, you can do 4x with a Threadripper or Xeon-W platform, no problem (RTX 6000 Ada). Else, I think the above route makes the most sense in the current market.

 

[pwnalds]

If you have the budget for workstation GPUs, you can do 4x with a Threadripper or Xeon-W platform, no problem (RTX 6000 Ada). Else, I think the above route makes the most sense in the current market.

Hi James,

Thank you for your time. I hope you understand that the question is mainly for render PCs. The user already has a 12900k computer with an RTX3060 where she does her work... She just want's more power when starting the render jobs by "delegating" the render job to the 2 peer workstations.

Looking at only one render workstation (since the second one will have the exact same config), why combine the threadripper with the 4x RTX6000 ada? Is it because of how many PCIe lanes of that CPU supports? Or is it to use rendering with both the CPU and GPU at the same time? is that possible under Cinema4D with something different than redshift?

It's fair to assume that you always recomend GPU rendering instead of CPU without no GPU involved?

Thanks you once again

Kind regards,
Tiago F

 

[Alex Glawion]

Redshift "plugin" on Cinema4D and get like 4 GPUs in each render node, say something like 4x 4080 on each of the 2 render nodes?

The Redshift GPU Mode is much, much faster than the license-free CPU mode. If rendering performance is what you need, there's no beating GPU render performance even if you have to then get redshift plugin licenses.

Quadro / Ada or other pro-lvl GPUs are wasted on redshift (unless you have good reasons for the added VRAM, which is rarely the case), mainstream is the best perf/dollar. 4070 has the best perf/dollar and they come in dual-slot, so you can add 4 to a regular WS build. Or you go with 2x 4090 per build (can't add more because they are at least triple/wuad slot) or you go mining-case, but will need multiple PSUs for 4x 4090. Not the hassle in my opinion.

4070 can be run at less than x16 pcie lanes as their bandwidth isn't as high as on the 4090, but you'd still need a low-lvl TR / HEDT platform to drive them all at at least x8 pcie lanes.

More info here: https://www.cgdirector.com/redshift-benchmark-results/

 

[pwnalds]

The Redshift GPU Mode is much, much faster than the license-free CPU mode. If rendering performance is what you need, there's no beating GPU render performance even if you have to then get redshift plugin licenses.

Quadro / Ada or other pro-lvl GPUs are wasted on redshift (unless you have good reasons for the added VRAM, which is rarely the case), mainstream is the best perf/dollar. 4070 has the best perf/dollar and they come in dual-slot, so you can add 4 to a regular WS build. Or you go with 2x 4090 per build (can't add more because they are at least triple/wuad slot) or you go mining-case, but will need multiple PSUs for 4x 4090. Not the hassle in my opinion.

4070 can be run at less than x16 pcie lanes as their bandwidth isn't as high as on the 4090, but you'd still need a low-lvl TR / HEDT platform to drive them all at at least x8 pcie lanes.

More info here: https://www.cgdirector.com/redshift-benchmark-results/

Alex,

Greatly apreciate your time on your answers.

I was almost 100% sure that the GPUs will be better to render stuff compared to CPUs. I know that there are some minor things where the CPU is better, but the number of processes where GPUs are better than CPUs vastely surpasses it.

Thank you very much once more, and maybe this can help others as well.

Kind regards,
Tiago Fernandes